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		<title>By: Jason J. W. Williams</title>
		<link>http://openquery.com/blog/search-mysql-55/comment-page-1#comment-2287</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason J. W. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anonymous

 The versioning potpourri of the last year is pathological. Let&#039;s start there. There&#039;s no reason for the same da*n release to have 3 different major version identifiers in the same 12 month period. 

@arjen I agree with your comments and share the confusion of the others who&#039;ve emailed you.</description>
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<p> The versioning potpourri of the last year is pathological. Let&#8217;s start there. There&#8217;s no reason for the same da*n release to have 3 different major version identifiers in the same 12 month period. </p>
<p>@arjen I agree with your comments and share the confusion of the others who&#8217;ve emailed you.</p>
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		<title>By: arjen</title>
		<link>http://openquery.com/blog/search-mysql-55/comment-page-1#comment-2166</link>
		<dc:creator>arjen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, anonymous.

My &quot;everybody else&quot; is based on emails and blog comments, and questions we get at user groups and conference. None of these people has the feeling that they have an overview of what&#039;s going on with either versions or active development at Sun/MySQL.

Now, you may declare them all to be blind and say &quot;just look up page X&quot; and &quot;check your sources&quot;, but that&#039;s not really helpful is it.When users say these things, it generally means that the info out there is somehow not clear.

Having to check versioning inside a repo tree is silly, the branch naming should indicate it. Unless you&#039;re familiar with the sourcecode, it&#039;s actually not that easy to find. So yes I can find it, but on behalf of all those who can&#039;t and actually don&#039;t care to, it shouldn&#039;t be necessary.

You&#039;re the first &quot;source&quot; this week to effectively imply that 6.0 is not abandoned. However, you&#039;re not actually a source as such since you&#039;re anonymous, plus it lacks specifics. You&#039;re just being crankypants.

Re release method change announcements, they&#039;re meaningless. Noone cares for announcements since so many things were announced before that then never happened. Development-in-public, and actual releases, are what people look for. MySQL used to do this, I&#039;m sure it can again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, anonymous.</p>
<p>My &#8220;everybody else&#8221; is based on emails and blog comments, and questions we get at user groups and conference. None of these people has the feeling that they have an overview of what&#8217;s going on with either versions or active development at Sun/MySQL.</p>
<p>Now, you may declare them all to be blind and say &#8220;just look up page X&#8221; and &#8220;check your sources&#8221;, but that&#8217;s not really helpful is it.When users say these things, it generally means that the info out there is somehow not clear.</p>
<p>Having to check versioning inside a repo tree is silly, the branch naming should indicate it. Unless you&#8217;re familiar with the sourcecode, it&#8217;s actually not that easy to find. So yes I can find it, but on behalf of all those who can&#8217;t and actually don&#8217;t care to, it shouldn&#8217;t be necessary.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re the first &#8220;source&#8221; this week to effectively imply that 6.0 is not abandoned. However, you&#8217;re not actually a source as such since you&#8217;re anonymous, plus it lacks specifics. You&#8217;re just being crankypants.</p>
<p>Re release method change announcements, they&#8217;re meaningless. Noone cares for announcements since so many things were announced before that then never happened. Development-in-public, and actual releases, are what people look for. MySQL used to do this, I&#8217;m sure it can again.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://openquery.com/blog/search-mysql-55/comment-page-1#comment-2165</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Since I was told there was a 5.5, it’s not unreasonable to look for a
&gt; branch that has “Series: 5.5″ noted. There isn’t.

Hand waving.

&gt; One of the comments I received was a ref to a completely different
&gt; branch name on LP, but it’s not particularly descriptive is it?

Only if you didn&#039;t pay attention to the development cycle announcement.

&gt; Am I supposed to guess that this is in fact a) 5.5 and b) the focus
&gt; of development?

No, but speculating is easy, isn&#039;t it? You could have read the development cycle wiki, asked on one of the various mailing lists, etc.

&gt; Furthermore, yes I see various somewhat active branches on
&gt; launchpad, but from many it’s impossible to see what version
&gt; they belong to.

I can see their versions with a few clicks...

&gt; Many of them actually refer to 6.0, which the world was told
&gt; was abandoned.

You need to check your sources...

&gt; Commonly, branches are named after their parent branch, + a tag
&gt; indicating who/what. For lack of any branch named 5.5, that approach
&gt; does not work here.

There is a reason branches are named how they are. Read up the development cycle wiki.

&gt; From the responses so far, the “don’t you know!?” comments come
&gt; from dear former colleagues at Sun/MySQL, whereas everybody else
&gt; is just as confused as I am.

Yes, everybody else...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Since I was told there was a 5.5, it’s not unreasonable to look for a<br />
&gt; branch that has “Series: 5.5″ noted. There isn’t.</p>
<p>Hand waving.</p>
<p>&gt; One of the comments I received was a ref to a completely different<br />
&gt; branch name on LP, but it’s not particularly descriptive is it?</p>
<p>Only if you didn&#8217;t pay attention to the development cycle announcement.</p>
<p>&gt; Am I supposed to guess that this is in fact a) 5.5 and b) the focus<br />
&gt; of development?</p>
<p>No, but speculating is easy, isn&#8217;t it? You could have read the development cycle wiki, asked on one of the various mailing lists, etc.</p>
<p>&gt; Furthermore, yes I see various somewhat active branches on<br />
&gt; launchpad, but from many it’s impossible to see what version<br />
&gt; they belong to.</p>
<p>I can see their versions with a few clicks&#8230;</p>
<p>&gt; Many of them actually refer to 6.0, which the world was told<br />
&gt; was abandoned.</p>
<p>You need to check your sources&#8230;</p>
<p>&gt; Commonly, branches are named after their parent branch, + a tag<br />
&gt; indicating who/what. For lack of any branch named 5.5, that approach<br />
&gt; does not work here.</p>
<p>There is a reason branches are named how they are. Read up the development cycle wiki.</p>
<p>&gt; From the responses so far, the “don’t you know!?” comments come<br />
&gt; from dear former colleagues at Sun/MySQL, whereas everybody else<br />
&gt; is just as confused as I am.</p>
<p>Yes, everybody else&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: arjen</title>
		<link>http://openquery.com/blog/search-mysql-55/comment-page-1#comment-2164</link>
		<dc:creator>arjen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anonymous thanks for your scream, I do share your frustration albeit differently directed.
Let&#039;s see. https://code.launchpad.net/mysql-server

Since I was told there was a 5.5, it&#039;s not unreasonable to look for a branch that has &quot;Series: 5.5&quot; noted. There isn&#039;t.
One of the comments I received was a ref to a completely different branch name on LP, but it&#039;s not particularly descriptive is it? Am I supposed to guess that this is in fact a) 5.5 and b) the focus of development?
Furthermore, yes I see various somewhat active branches on launchpad, but from many it&#039;s impossible to see what version they belong to. Many of them actually refer to 6.0, which the world was told was abandoned.
Commonly, branches are named after their parent branch, + a tag indicating who/what. For lack of any branch named 5.5, that approach does not work here.

From the responses so far, the &quot;don&#039;t you know!?&quot; comments come from dear former colleagues at Sun/MySQL, whereas everybody else is just as confused as I am. This might indicate that there&#039;s some relevance to the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@anonymous thanks for your scream, I do share your frustration albeit differently directed.<br />
Let&#8217;s see. <a href="https://code.launchpad.net/mysql-server" rel="nofollow">https://code.launchpad.net/mysql-server</a></p>
<p>Since I was told there was a 5.5, it&#8217;s not unreasonable to look for a branch that has &#8220;Series: 5.5&#8243; noted. There isn&#8217;t.<br />
One of the comments I received was a ref to a completely different branch name on LP, but it&#8217;s not particularly descriptive is it? Am I supposed to guess that this is in fact a) 5.5 and b) the focus of development?<br />
Furthermore, yes I see various somewhat active branches on launchpad, but from many it&#8217;s impossible to see what version they belong to. Many of them actually refer to 6.0, which the world was told was abandoned.<br />
Commonly, branches are named after their parent branch, + a tag indicating who/what. For lack of any branch named 5.5, that approach does not work here.</p>
<p>From the responses so far, the &#8220;don&#8217;t you know!?&#8221; comments come from dear former colleagues at Sun/MySQL, whereas everybody else is just as confused as I am. This might indicate that there&#8217;s some relevance to the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://openquery.com/blog/search-mysql-55/comment-page-1#comment-2163</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For christ&#039;s sake, can&#039;t you look at the branch list and deduce which trees are used for development? It&#039;s right there, you just have to look! No development is done on main branches, either on launchpad or anywhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For christ&#8217;s sake, can&#8217;t you look at the branch list and deduce which trees are used for development? It&#8217;s right there, you just have to look! No development is done on main branches, either on launchpad or anywhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: arjen</title>
		<link>http://openquery.com/blog/search-mysql-55/comment-page-1#comment-2157</link>
		<dc:creator>arjen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for that... I think. It doesn&#039;t actually clarify much really, does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for that&#8230; I think. It doesn&#8217;t actually clarify much really, does it?</p>
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		<title>By: anony</title>
		<link>http://openquery.com/blog/search-mysql-55/comment-page-1#comment-2156</link>
		<dc:creator>anony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is 5.2, but is not what you are looking for:
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/mysql/Downloads/MySQL-5.2/
5.3 was skipped for some other reason, so we went for 5.4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is 5.2, but is not what you are looking for:<br />
<a href="ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/mysql/Downloads/MySQL-5.2/" rel="nofollow">ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/mysql/Downloads/MySQL-5.2/</a><br />
5.3 was skipped for some other reason, so we went for 5.4.</p>
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		<title>By: Vladislav Vaintroub</title>
		<link>http://openquery.com/blog/search-mysql-55/comment-page-1#comment-2155</link>
		<dc:creator>Vladislav Vaintroub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Arien,
mysql-next-mr branches on lauchpad are 5.5 currently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Arien,<br />
mysql-next-mr branches on lauchpad are 5.5 currently.</p>
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